Bonnie Lind is VP of Business Development for Pathion and Trevor Curwin is VP of Energy Market for Greensparc are both passionate and articulate advocates for a future of decentralized clean energy as both work at clean-tech companies. Our conversation covered some of the recent history of clean-tech – the overshoot of initial technologies a decade ago, why and how there have been positive changes that pave the way for adoption of clean energy generation. Topics covered in the discussion include the dynamics of micro-grids, the challenges and opportunities involved with integrated multiple types of generation into traditional grids, and the role that software plays in orchestrating and managing a more decentralized, heterogeneous energy infrastructure. We also explore the challenges ahead for utilities, both economic and structural, as well as the potential opportunities ahead for new players to enter the market. We discuss the potential role of AI and advanced analytics along with interesting new companies such as Pisces and ElectriQPower.